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		<title>Comment on Something had to give by Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Andrew!  I&#039;m still here: any time you post, I read, even if it&#039;s days later.  It will probably always be like this (as far as &#039;me reading your writing&#039; goes).  &quot;Rest of your life&quot; happens to all of us (look at me - I&#039;ve been horrible at posting regularly this year).

I myself have been going through some changes that have kept me even more distant from my blog than you&#039;ve been from yours in the past month or so, and I&#039;ll hopefully post on it in some way or another soon.  In the meantime, congrats on the culmination of much hard work - I hope your product is very successful!  And like I said, I&#039;ll be here to read when (if) you do write again.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andrew!  I&#8217;m still here: any time you post, I read, even if it&#8217;s days later.  It will probably always be like this (as far as &#8216;me reading your writing&#8217; goes).  &#8220;Rest of your life&#8221; happens to all of us (look at me &#8211; I&#8217;ve been horrible at posting regularly this year).</p>
<p>I myself have been going through some changes that have kept me even more distant from my blog than you&#8217;ve been from yours in the past month or so, and I&#8217;ll hopefully post on it in some way or another soon.  In the meantime, congrats on the culmination of much hard work &#8211; I hope your product is very successful!  And like I said, I&#8217;ll be here to read when (if) you do write again.  :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Something had to give by Brian 'Psychochild' Green</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/personal/something-had-to-give/#comment-8005</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian 'Psychochild' Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 06:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How dare you put your livelihood above us random internet people!  QQ</description>
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		<title>Comment on Something had to give by mbp</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/personal/something-had-to-give/#comment-8004</link>
		<dc:creator>mbp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on the big ship! Lets hope that customer is the first of many.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Something had to give by Panzor</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/personal/something-had-to-give/#comment-8003</link>
		<dc:creator>Panzor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still here!  RSS wizardry indeed.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Post mortem: Nier by Nathan Righter</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/videogames/post-mortem-nier/#comment-7992</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Righter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! Nier seems to me very interesting and enjoyable game. I didn&#039;t play it so far. But the details of this post really convinced me to give it a try. Cheers :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! Nier seems to me very interesting and enjoyable game. I didn&#8217;t play it so far. But the details of this post really convinced me to give it a try. Cheers :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for revolution? by Andrew</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/society-politics/time-for-revolution/#comment-7986</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 22:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My province just had an election, and the turnout was a measly 46%.  I didn&#039;t vote.... it felt like it didn&#039;t matter because all of the options were equally terrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My province just had an election, and the turnout was a measly 46%.  I didn&#8217;t vote&#8230;. it felt like it didn&#8217;t matter because all of the options were equally terrible.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for revolution? by Andrew</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/society-politics/time-for-revolution/#comment-7985</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 22:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mob rule seems preferable to the either corporate rule or plutocratic rule that we have now in most world &quot;democracies&quot;.  

At least the people would be involved, and politicians make at least as many boneheaded and hateful decisions as the commons would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mob rule seems preferable to the either corporate rule or plutocratic rule that we have now in most world &#8220;democracies&#8221;.  </p>
<p>At least the people would be involved, and politicians make at least as many boneheaded and hateful decisions as the commons would.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for revolution? by Tidbits and Toys &#171; Tish Tosh Tesh</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/society-politics/time-for-revolution/#comment-7984</link>
		<dc:creator>Tidbits and Toys &#171; Tish Tosh Tesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 12:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] unrest.  We live in interesting times.  It will be interesting to see where things go, and just what sort of revolutions pop up.  Be prepared and pay attention.  Hopefully it&#8217;s a tempest in a teapot, but it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] unrest.  We live in interesting times.  It will be interesting to see where things go, and just what sort of revolutions pop up.  Be prepared and pay attention.  Hopefully it&#8217;s a tempest in a teapot, but it [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for revolution? by Tesh</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/society-politics/time-for-revolution/#comment-7981</link>
		<dc:creator>Tesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 17:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trouble I have with massive popular vote is that it&#039;s no better than direct democracy; it&#039;s mob rule, this time a mob of &quot;technocracy&quot;, as it were.  That&#039;s great if you can mobilize a bloc of techie voters, but that&#039;s not going to help everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble I have with massive popular vote is that it&#8217;s no better than direct democracy; it&#8217;s mob rule, this time a mob of &#8220;technocracy&#8221;, as it were.  That&#8217;s great if you can mobilize a bloc of techie voters, but that&#8217;s not going to help everyone.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for revolution? by Paul</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/society-politics/time-for-revolution/#comment-7980</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Churchill said, democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Churchill said, democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for revolution? by Longasc</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/society-politics/time-for-revolution/#comment-7979</link>
		<dc:creator>Longasc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 12:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s true. I often feel that voting for this or that party doesn&#039;t make a major difference in German politics anymore. Protest actions become increasingly popular in this environment. I think this focused form of protest on a single aspect is not only increasing in Germany but many western democracies. Singular protest parties with heavy focus on one agenda (mostly focusing on things like internet laws, the environment or certain social issues) usually fail outside of their field of expertise and main interest even if they sometimes even win elections.

For better or worse, I smell change is in the air! Something must change, as over 50% people chosing not to vote at all is alarming.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichtw%C3%A4hler &lt;- even if you don&#039;t speak German you can see the numbers. 40-50% abstention is the norm!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true. I often feel that voting for this or that party doesn&#8217;t make a major difference in German politics anymore. Protest actions become increasingly popular in this environment. I think this focused form of protest on a single aspect is not only increasing in Germany but many western democracies. Singular protest parties with heavy focus on one agenda (mostly focusing on things like internet laws, the environment or certain social issues) usually fail outside of their field of expertise and main interest even if they sometimes even win elections.</p>
<p>For better or worse, I smell change is in the air! Something must change, as over 50% people chosing not to vote at all is alarming.</p>
<p><a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichtw%C3%A4hler" rel="nofollow">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichtw%C3%A4hler</a> &lt;- even if you don&#039;t speak German you can see the numbers. 40-50% abstention is the norm!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for revolution? by Stabs</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/society-politics/time-for-revolution/#comment-7978</link>
		<dc:creator>Stabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 11:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Carlin&#039;s right to link the protests. Many of the people protesting here in the UK see ourselves as allied to the Arab Spring and OWS.

I think the world desperately needs a new e-democratic model. The problem with the old model is that lobbyists often work on eroding laws that are rather boring. The law protecting commodities markets against speculators - who cared about that until Goldmans and others got exemptions and food prices started skyrocketing?

Perhaps with the internet we don&#039;t need representatives at all. Primary legislation can be passed by massive popular e-vote. That would mean a few rocky years as people vote in poorly thought-out stuff but people would learn to be sophisticated. At least that way if someone wants to bribe the people who pass the laws they have to try to bribe all of us (and someone will no doubt expose their ulterior motive).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Carlin&#8217;s right to link the protests. Many of the people protesting here in the UK see ourselves as allied to the Arab Spring and OWS.</p>
<p>I think the world desperately needs a new e-democratic model. The problem with the old model is that lobbyists often work on eroding laws that are rather boring. The law protecting commodities markets against speculators &#8211; who cared about that until Goldmans and others got exemptions and food prices started skyrocketing?</p>
<p>Perhaps with the internet we don&#8217;t need representatives at all. Primary legislation can be passed by massive popular e-vote. That would mean a few rocky years as people vote in poorly thought-out stuff but people would learn to be sophisticated. At least that way if someone wants to bribe the people who pass the laws they have to try to bribe all of us (and someone will no doubt expose their ulterior motive).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for revolution? by Derrick</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/society-politics/time-for-revolution/#comment-7977</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 03:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This, really.  Assign a fixed - small - budget, don&#039;t allow contributions at all.  Classify any gifts as bribery, punishable as such.   

But, that will simply never happen.  Who in their right mind would propose/vote in such a law?  Given that those who are in a position to do such a thing are the people getting these contributions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This, really.  Assign a fixed &#8211; small &#8211; budget, don&#8217;t allow contributions at all.  Classify any gifts as bribery, punishable as such.   </p>
<p>But, that will simply never happen.  Who in their right mind would propose/vote in such a law?  Given that those who are in a position to do such a thing are the people getting these contributions?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for revolution? by Derrick</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/society-politics/time-for-revolution/#comment-7976</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 03:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t blame the populace that votes in jerks, when their only options are jerks.  There is a fundamental problem with democracy in that the vast majority of voters do not in fact make any kind of informed vote and instead simply vote for &quot;their&quot; party regardless, or vote based on a single &quot;hot button&quot; issue regardless of overall platforms.  But, that&#039;s only an issue when you&#039;ve got real choices - something we don&#039;t have now.

And, no, the solution isn&#039;t to &quot;just run yourself&quot; or whatever else - The only way to have a chance to grow as a viable candidate is to do so with the backing of a major party... and with very major fiscal support.  Where do you get that?   By selling out to corporate interests.

You&#039;re right, though - to what is the question?  Unfortunately, anything isn&#039;t better, there&#039;s a LOT of worse ways things could go.  Worse, it&#039;s pretty much impossible to get everyone together behind one idea - the very nature of the protests is pretty much &quot;Anything but this!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t blame the populace that votes in jerks, when their only options are jerks.  There is a fundamental problem with democracy in that the vast majority of voters do not in fact make any kind of informed vote and instead simply vote for &#8220;their&#8221; party regardless, or vote based on a single &#8220;hot button&#8221; issue regardless of overall platforms.  But, that&#8217;s only an issue when you&#8217;ve got real choices &#8211; something we don&#8217;t have now.</p>
<p>And, no, the solution isn&#8217;t to &#8220;just run yourself&#8221; or whatever else &#8211; The only way to have a chance to grow as a viable candidate is to do so with the backing of a major party&#8230; and with very major fiscal support.  Where do you get that?   By selling out to corporate interests.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, though &#8211; to what is the question?  Unfortunately, anything isn&#8217;t better, there&#8217;s a LOT of worse ways things could go.  Worse, it&#8217;s pretty much impossible to get everyone together behind one idea &#8211; the very nature of the protests is pretty much &#8220;Anything but this!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for revolution? by Void</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/society-politics/time-for-revolution/#comment-7975</link>
		<dc:creator>Void</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 02:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish we could make political donations illegal.  If we could find a way to keep bribery and quid pro quo out of politics it would go a long way towards fixing things.  Then the politicians might actually think about the people they represent instead of thinking about themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish we could make political donations illegal.  If we could find a way to keep bribery and quid pro quo out of politics it would go a long way towards fixing things.  Then the politicians might actually think about the people they represent instead of thinking about themselves.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for revolution? by Azuriel</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/society-politics/time-for-revolution/#comment-7974</link>
		<dc:creator>Azuriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 02:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a systemic problem of democracy in general. I want to blame career politicians specifically, but what can you actually do when democracy is literally a popularity contest wherein massive amounts of (expensive) advertising is required to stand a chance of winning? And as Tesh mentions, direct democracy would be a HUGE step backwards as a frightening amount of people are total morons.

In any case, the #OccupyWallstreet thing is less about politicians and more about the increasingly absurd wealth gap, even if the people don&#039;t strictly realize it. In a good economy with wages growing, no one really cares about politics. In a bad economy that nevertheless sees corporations raking in record profits, people suddenly finds the time make a /concernface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a systemic problem of democracy in general. I want to blame career politicians specifically, but what can you actually do when democracy is literally a popularity contest wherein massive amounts of (expensive) advertising is required to stand a chance of winning? And as Tesh mentions, direct democracy would be a HUGE step backwards as a frightening amount of people are total morons.</p>
<p>In any case, the #OccupyWallstreet thing is less about politicians and more about the increasingly absurd wealth gap, even if the people don&#8217;t strictly realize it. In a good economy with wages growing, no one really cares about politics. In a bad economy that nevertheless sees corporations raking in record profits, people suddenly finds the time make a /concernface.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for revolution? by Derrick</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/society-politics/time-for-revolution/#comment-7973</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 22:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been of that view for some time too - that our democracy is pointless.  We can&#039;t choose to elect people who will actually represent us (and our interests) because there&#039;s no way to ensure those you elect will in fact do so.  Used to be the case that if someone didn&#039;t, you&#039;d choose not to elect them next time - but the reality is that &lt;i&gt;every&lt;/i&gt; politician at that level is utterly uninterested in the citizen&#039;s interests.  There&#039;s no good alternatives.

Most of the pro-representative democracy points brought up in it&#039;s defense are tired old sound bites with no real meaning anymore due to how utterly the system has been abused and broken.

I&#039;ve been following the #OccupyWallstreet protests fairly closely, as well as the other similar ones springing up around the world.  I&#039;m still dubious, though, as to what can really happen.  People - particularly the younger set - are indeed disillusioned with the status quo, but what can they really do?  

Very rarely do protests actually effect meaningful change, particularly when - such as these - they don&#039;t have a clear direction other than being a cry of discontent.  The demands made are as varied as the people participating, and many are utterly unrealistic.

Add to that how those in power, both directly in government and somewhat more indirectly as large corporations/associations, have a vested interest in keeping the system as it stands now.  

Things will have to get a lot worse before anything changes... Which is either depressing (nothing changes) or frightening (I&#039;d hate to see things get much worse, as it&#039;ll inevitably result in bloodshed).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been of that view for some time too &#8211; that our democracy is pointless.  We can&#8217;t choose to elect people who will actually represent us (and our interests) because there&#8217;s no way to ensure those you elect will in fact do so.  Used to be the case that if someone didn&#8217;t, you&#8217;d choose not to elect them next time &#8211; but the reality is that <i>every</i> politician at that level is utterly uninterested in the citizen&#8217;s interests.  There&#8217;s no good alternatives.</p>
<p>Most of the pro-representative democracy points brought up in it&#8217;s defense are tired old sound bites with no real meaning anymore due to how utterly the system has been abused and broken.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been following the #OccupyWallstreet protests fairly closely, as well as the other similar ones springing up around the world.  I&#8217;m still dubious, though, as to what can really happen.  People &#8211; particularly the younger set &#8211; are indeed disillusioned with the status quo, but what can they really do?  </p>
<p>Very rarely do protests actually effect meaningful change, particularly when &#8211; such as these &#8211; they don&#8217;t have a clear direction other than being a cry of discontent.  The demands made are as varied as the people participating, and many are utterly unrealistic.</p>
<p>Add to that how those in power, both directly in government and somewhat more indirectly as large corporations/associations, have a vested interest in keeping the system as it stands now.  </p>
<p>Things will have to get a lot worse before anything changes&#8230; Which is either depressing (nothing changes) or frightening (I&#8217;d hate to see things get much worse, as it&#8217;ll inevitably result in bloodshed).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for revolution? by Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 22:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To what, indeed.  That&#039;s the big question, I guess.

The NYT article hints at some new system of government based more on tools of the Internet age..... but like any political system, it&#039;s pure theory until someone comes up with the model, irons out the details, and proves that it works.  

At this point anything is better than what we have now - representative democracy where the representatives ignore those who put them there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To what, indeed.  That&#8217;s the big question, I guess.</p>
<p>The NYT article hints at some new system of government based more on tools of the Internet age&#8230;.. but like any political system, it&#8217;s pure theory until someone comes up with the model, irons out the details, and proves that it works.  </p>
<p>At this point anything is better than what we have now &#8211; representative democracy where the representatives ignore those who put them there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for revolution? by Tesh</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/society-politics/time-for-revolution/#comment-7971</link>
		<dc:creator>Tesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 22:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question I have is &quot;change to *what*?&quot;

If the agitation leads to a more direct democracy, that&#039;s a step backwards in my mind.  Mind you, I&#039;m sick of leaders, too, but I&#039;m convinced that we have two big problems; a populace that votes in the jerks, and lawmakers who are above the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question I have is &#8220;change to *what*?&#8221;</p>
<p>If the agitation leads to a more direct democracy, that&#8217;s a step backwards in my mind.  Mind you, I&#8217;m sick of leaders, too, but I&#8217;m convinced that we have two big problems; a populace that votes in the jerks, and lawmakers who are above the law.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Post mortem: Radiant Historia by Tesh</title>
		<link>http://systemicbabble.com/videogames/post-mortem-radiant-historia/#comment-7970</link>
		<dc:creator>Tesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 16:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the review.  This has been on my short list for a while, just waiting for a sale.  I just bumped it up a notch.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the review.  This has been on my short list for a while, just waiting for a sale.  I just bumped it up a notch.  :)</p>
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